tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post8811115893203082561..comments2024-03-17T19:27:36.946-07:00Comments on Pits Perilous: On Gaming Conservative...Olde House Ruleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06672388784118015345noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-90585995451897625842020-01-05T10:15:12.069-08:002020-01-05T10:15:12.069-08:00I don't see how games aren't politically b...I don't see how games aren't politically bias especially when it comes to intersectionality at the very least as well as movies.<br /><br />This decade they're plenty of games that are overtly liberal or just progressive. Such as Life is Strange 2. Two children want to move past Trump's Wall into Mexico! And they're stereotypical "racist" police officers, and gun-ho military who shot his brother. What about Wolfenstein the recent one with two female teen leads. Or the lesbian kissing lead from The last of us 2 (which is the exception since the first was a brilliant game). There is also Far Cry New dawn. I see that when it comes to customisation now of any military game half of them and definitely *now* atleast one character are 100 ib females.<br /><br />In regard to RPG, there is a website which links data which shows that RPGs are used to escape the socio-cultural environment of real life to escape into a new world where such things don't exist. I think most games have a political element too them, or have been linked to various fads which have their own political outlook. Ulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08183414804213798719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-628611229741025532019-11-19T16:29:51.825-08:002019-11-19T16:29:51.825-08:00That could be our business model... let's stre...That could be our business model... let's stream it!<br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-83769350533659741972019-11-14T15:14:39.728-08:002019-11-14T15:14:39.728-08:00The OSR doesn't veer conservative. There are j...The OSR doesn't veer conservative. There are just a few very loud conservatives arguing against a changing demographic they fear.<br /><br />I think a conservative could never really like old school games based heavily on die rolling. Just admitting they had good luck on a roll would destroy their entire worldview. Fairness is extremely important to them, and old school games aren't fair.<br /><br /><br />Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323467239192324347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-21617075365961703812019-11-14T13:46:09.238-08:002019-11-14T13:46:09.238-08:00Lol! I'd almost pay good money to play Tomb of...Lol! I'd almost pay good money to play Tomb of Horrors as a first-level character just to see how quickly (and gruesomely) I died...Olde House Ruleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672388784118015345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-45338306785075302019-11-14T13:22:32.858-08:002019-11-14T13:22:32.858-08:00If I had a nickle for every time a GM sent a 1st l...If I had a nickle for every time a GM sent a 1st level party into the Tomb of Horrors, I wouldn't need capitalism. <br /><br />This may surprise some, but I, too, am a political centrist... and a gaming centrist, as well. I'm neither an overly strict Darwinian overlord nor a give-away-the-farm marshmallow, but something in-between. That balance is important, I think.<br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-72645569633002111242019-11-14T07:30:35.092-08:002019-11-14T07:30:35.092-08:00I'm not sure the OSR veers so much towards &qu...I'm not sure the OSR veers so much towards "conservative," but newer gaming certainly veers more progressive, and I agree with you that this is largely a result of demographic and designers (and Hasbro/WotC) deliberately marketing to that demographic.<br /><br />The oldsters seem (to me) to be all over the board.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-9058994083134617742019-11-13T17:10:09.839-08:002019-11-13T17:10:09.839-08:00No worries. I deal with real politics enough that...No worries. I deal with real politics enough that I don't particularly want it in my gaming. <br /><br />I have noticed that the teenagers I'm running an OSR game for are very . . . unprepared for an OSR game. "Is there anything weird about the room?" is a common question, and apparently their 5e DM asks for a search/perception roll after that question. "Tell me what you want to examine" leaves them speechless. <br /><br />Eh, kids today. I'll teach 'em right, make sure they don't turn into story-gamers, or worse, fall down the rabbit hole to CCGs . . . .Workshophttp://dougsworkshop.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-71981590289341067262019-11-13T05:30:19.203-08:002019-11-13T05:30:19.203-08:00I agree that was probably the intent. I didn't...I agree that was probably the intent. I didn't miss the point so much as I was making a lame joke based on the premise.<br /><br />I once saw someone try to define D&D vs RuneQuest and other games in a somewhat similar way. Interesting thought experiment but I think there are too many varieties of gamers and too many different ways they entered the hobby for any truisms to have resulted.Ruprechthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00139664977453444000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-63653072576117757172019-11-13T04:39:46.186-08:002019-11-13T04:39:46.186-08:00I think "conservative" in this instance ...I think "conservative" in this instance applies to the view of the game world. In the "liberal" view of games, everyone is equal, balance is paramount, and the PCs won't come up against something they can't handle (the challenge level or whatever you want to call it). <br /><br />In old-school games (i.e. conservative), the world is presented as is. Characters are not balanced against each other, but against the world (a fighter and a mage both have different roles, but cannot take over the other's role). The world exists, now strive against it as best you can. There is no predetermined ending, and there will be places you won't be able to get through, either because of bad luck or bad decisions.<br /><br />I may also argue that conservative gaming is "here's your 1st level character - go forth" while a more liberal approach would be "here's a 1st level character that you can change when you get tired of it and your choices today won't matter tomorrow because there's wealth by level and you can add another class and I promise you won't fight a dragon until it's level-appropriate to do so."<br /><br />I don't have enough experience to say if there's a relation between someone's political views and their preference of game system. I suspect not, although there is a part of me that relishes the fact that as children, we didn't need rules to play make believe, and thus we're all born Libertarians. <br />Workshophttp://dougsworkshop.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-91466538122626589012019-11-12T19:12:44.412-08:002019-11-12T19:12:44.412-08:00Hmmm, that one's hard to say...Hmmm, that one's hard to say...Olde House Ruleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672388784118015345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372464286852637246.post-1415885286739180842019-11-12T18:54:51.551-08:002019-11-12T18:54:51.551-08:00Would Story games with everyone having an equal ro...Would Story games with everyone having an equal role be a functioning communism of sorts? Or a peaceful anarchy? Or can any labels really apply to such a small group.Ruprechthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00139664977453444000noreply@blogger.com