When I was a young gamer (so many years ago), hit points seemed like the most important attribute, at least first among equals; and I had a point. In a pastime known for its lethality, one's hits amounted to life itself. How could a mere magic-user hope to compete, much less survive, with 2 hit points? And what was the point (pun intended) of so few anyway? You could say likewise for the whole Player's Handbook; fighters, the works...
And what about your avarage (in AD&D speak) fighter? A typical veteran with a median constitution had a whopping 4-5 hit points, which explains why constitution remains a close second to strength for any martial profession. A robust fighter might get 8 hits, which was definitely better, but first level was still a pretty bitter pill to swallow. By way of example, that's two hits with a longsword. And these were a party's front liners.
I understood. Magic-users specialized in spellcraft (niche protection); but fighters did combat for a living (again, pun intended). And levels didn't necesarily help, since these were rolled randomly on notoriously fickle dice. Barring merciful house rules, a 3rd-level type might easily run 10-12 hit points. That's three average hits from a common longsword. Of course, armor would reduce the number of successful hits, but still. It appeared unworkable...
(1) You don't fight everything. But door-to-door killing is how it works, right? Wrong. Combat is dangerous, so you avoid all but the most obviously winnable (and profitable) encounters. I admit, a certain charming, get-to-the-point fun was lost; but gearing up to explore the waiting underworld took on a depth that made a second childhood altogether unthinkable...
(2) If at all possible, take henchmen. Charisma isn't a dump stat. An expedition is just that, an expedition. If your game doesn't look like a trip to the unexplored Congo, you're potentially missing out on valuable loot and, of course, experience. There's safety in numbers, and hired help blunts the power of wandering monsters while increasing profitable fights.
Of course, this isn't universal, and our latest, Mydwandr, assumes smaller parties with uniform progression. But you won't find long (or short) rests to recover precious resources either, calling for the same caution AD&D advised. There's no wrong way to play games involving elves and magic, and you may recognize my youthful apprehension in our earlier titles. Even so, AD&D's approach was no mere oversight, and that's this week's point...
Hit points never did make sense.
ReplyDeleteMore "experience" -- higher levels -- does not give you "more life force. More experience in fighting (self defense) may give you better "armor" -- self-defense ability -- but a knife across the juglar is still going to kill you, kill anyone, so forget "hit points." It's ridiculous.
It's an abstraction for sure. Elves and wizards are also absurd...
DeleteThis is easily handled by the DM and I have always played it that way. If any situation would logically call for the immediate death (say an explosion, decapitation, fall an exceedingly height, etc), the victim dies immediately.
DeleteThis is actually one reason I love lighter rulesets, the rules knowingly cannot cover every single possibility and the rules DEMAND that the DM make decisions on the fly to handle situations not covered by the rules.
The solution here is simple: Use your brain noodle.
The assumption that hit points represent physical toughness is your problem. And a knife across the jugular (i.e. killing a helpless opponent) doesn't care about hit points, BTB it's instant death.
DeleteThe players in my regular 1E AD&D game here in Lake Geneva know enough to run when needed.
ReplyDeleteSuch is the path of wisdom...and survival.
DeleteThere really isn't any point into engaging combat unless the advantage was there for a party of PCs. Though I've had my moments just sending my Player Character's to their doom in my solo campaigns. A 1st Level fighter with 1d8 Hit Dice? yeah I roll 1s and 3s most of the time. Pits & Perils reduces the lethality contrast to Basic Fantasy, but I sill avoid combat regardless.
ReplyDeleteA wise man. P&P can still be dangerous...
DeleteNitpick: you seem to be thinking that fighters have a d8 hit die. They have d10 instead.
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DeleteActually, I was thinking 5 on 1d10 with a CON bonus...
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